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Historical Chalices Of Thurles, Co. Tipperary.

**“Walter of the Rosaries Chalice”.** *(Walter na bPaidríní)*.
*Pic: G. Willoughby* ©

If you ask Thurles [Map Ref.] people what is the oldest manufactured object in daily use in this area, they might not immediately think of the chalices located in their local Church. This may well be so, and the story behind each chalice may be interesting in itself, to lovers of local and Irish history.

Our special thanks to historian and researcher Very Rev. Monsignor Dr Maurice Dooley, AP, Parish of Loughmore, Templemore, Co. Tipperary, and former lecturer on Canon Law at St Patrick’s College, Cathedral, Street, Thurles, Co. Tipperary.

Piseógs Talk in Cashel Library, Co. Tipperary.

Piseógs were the most common form of curse used in old Ireland, a Piseóg being a superstitious belief or practice, charm or spell.

Piseógs are traditional Irish curses often associated with rural communities and folklore. Same can be used to cause misfortune to others, steal their luck, or influence events, and are often cast with the intention of causing harm.
The very fear of the piseóg itself was often considered a significant part of the curse, sometimes more damaging than the actual act itself.

Join Maura for Folk Magic of Piseógs in Cashel Library, on Thursday 30th October at 2.30pm.
Note: Adult Event.

This is just one of the many free events at Cashel Library each year.
Do Remember booking is essential to Tel: 062-63825.

Martin Mansergh, Key Irish Peace Process Adviser, Dies Aged 78.

Mr Martin Mansergh, former Irish Minister of State and key Irish peace process adviser, sadly dies aged 78 years.

Martin George Southcote Mansergh, former Minister of State, historian, and one of the most influential advisers in the Northern Ireland peace process, has died at the age of 78 years, while on a trip to the Sahara with fellow retired parliamentarians.

Born in Surrey, England, in December 1946, Mr Mansergh was the son of historian and Oxford academic Nicholas Mansergh, a renowned authority on Anglo-Irish relations, and Diana Mary Mansergh. He was educated at The King’s School, Canterbury, before going on to study at Christ Church, Oxford, where he obtained a doctorate in history. His academic background and deep interest in Irish and European affairs shaped both his intellectual outlook and his later political career.

Although English-born, Mr Mansergh made Ireland his home and dedicated his professional life to Irish public service. His historical awareness, combined with a sharp political mind, made him a trusted adviser to Fianna Fáil Taoisigh Charles Haughey, Albert Reynolds, and Bertie Ahern. He was regarded as a central figure in the complex and often secret efforts to open dialogue with Sinn Féin from the late 1980s, laying the groundwork for the negotiations that led to the Good Friday Agreement in 1998.

Elected to Seanad Éireann in 2002, he served until 2007, when he was elected TD for Tipperary South. In government, he was appointed Minister of State with responsibility for the Office of Public Works. While his parliamentary career was significant, it was his quiet, steadfast role in shaping government policy on Northern Ireland and his contribution to peace that most defined his public legacy.

Tributes following his death have described him as a man of integrity, intellect, and generosity. His early negotiations on behalf of successive Taoisigh, his resilience during years of painstaking dialogue, and his commitment to reconciliation earned him the respect of political leaders across divides. “Few on the Irish side were more crucial to the Peace Process,” one tribute reflected, “whether through his role as an intermediary or in crafting a new political and intellectual framework for peace.”

He is recalled as being a key figure in establishing contacts and building trust in the years leading to the Good Friday Agreement. His contribution, alongside that of Mr John Hume, senior government officials, and Sinn Féin representatives, was pivotal in transforming the political Irish landscape.

Away from politics, Mr Mansergh was known as a historian and writer, contributing to Irish and European scholarship and offering reflections on politics and history that drew on both his academic training and his practical experience.

He is remembered as a warm and thoughtful man, generous with his time, devoted to his family, and proud of his roots in County Tipperary, where he lived for many years.

Mr Mansergh is survived by his wife, Elizabeth and their five children. His passing marks the loss of a figure whose intellect, dedication, and quiet determination were instrumental in securing peace in Ireland and whose life leaves behind a proud legacy of service and reconciliation.

In ár gcroíthe go deo.

Littleton, Thurles, Co. Tipperary – “The Oldest Of Old Kriegies” Published.

A book, entitled “The Oldest Of Old Kriegies”, has now been published by Moycarkey-Borris, Littleton Men’s Shed History Group, under the guidence of Dr Pat McMahon.

The word “Kriegie” [pronounced kree-gee] is the German military slang for an Allied prisoner of war held in a German internment camp during World War II.

Local history researcher and member of Moycarkey-Borris Littleton History Group, Mr Michael Dempsey, now reports.

The new publication “The Oldest Of Old Kriegies”, is a well sourced publication which has researched, for the very first time and in greatest detail, the life of former Littleton, Thurles, Co. Tipperary resident Mr Lawerence (Larry) Slattery.
Before coming to Littleton, Mr Slattery was born on February 28th 1913, some 35km away in Rossacrow, Donohill, Co. Tipperary, of parents Mary Ann (nee Moran) and Michael Slattery, both primary school teachers.

On September 4th 1939, Mr Slattery’s aircraft was shot down over the sea at Wilhemshaven, west of Hamburg, latter a coastal town in Lower Saxony, Germany, while attempting to bomb 4 warships.

Picked up from the sea Mr Slattery would go on to become the longest detained British P.O.W of the entire War; not being finally freed until Allied troops reached his prisoner-of-war camp (stalag) in April of 1945.

Thurles.Info website, back in December 5th, 2017 previously briefly wrote about Larry Slattery, however the research details entered into in this new publication greatly exceeds anything previously printed heretofore.

The video above © remembers Mr Larry Slattery and his beloved locality one more time from the sky’s above, with music courtesy of the late, great English composer and conductor Mr Ron Goodwin (1925 – 2003).

Moycarkey-Borris History Group Littleton (MBL) would like to thank the National Archives of Ireland, Military Archives of Ireland, University College Dublin (UCD) Archives, Rockwell College Archives, Lincoln University Digital Archives, British National Archives, Tipperary Studies (at Thurles Library), and family descendants, from whence this extensive research now featured in this publication was gleaned.

This new publication can be purchased from Book Worm Bookshop & Cafe,Thurles, The Horse & Jokey Hotel, from all retail shops in Littleton and directly from members of the Moycarkey-Borris, Littleton Men’s Shed, History Group. Mobile Phone: 086-3648664.

Where Can A Devils Mark To Be Viewed In Thurles, Co. Tipperary.

One such ‘Devils Mark’ or Ordnance Survey Benchmark can be found in Thurles on a pillar close to the road surface, at the entrance to St Bridget’s graveyard at an area formerly known as Garryvicleheen Street, better known today as Abbey Road, west of Thurles town.

Carved into buildings, Churches, bridges and old stone walls across Ireland are these small but remarkable relics of scientific history, known as Ordnance Survey Benchmarks.

**One Ordnance Survey Benchmark** *(Devil’s Mark)* **in Thurles, Co. Tipperary.**
*Pic: G. Willoughby*.

Though created for science and statecraft, they soon became part of Irish folklore. Particularly in the west of Ireland, where oral tradition recalls that some communities called them the “Devil’s marks,” believing the mysterious cuts were left by dark forces. Same were sometimes smashed in the belief that with these marks, once removed, would ensure that the Devil could not return.

These chiselled symbols, usually a simple crow’s foot cut beneath a horizontal line (view image above), once formed part of a vast system for measuring height above sea level. Known colloquially as “sappers’ marks,” the upward-pointing arrow same contain, was borrowed from the British Government’s ‘broad arrow’ emblem of ownership, repurposed by surveyors as a practical, durable and instantly recognisable tool. At one point the British government issued prison clothing which were stamped with this ‘broad arrow’ emblem, so that people in the towns and villages would know that these individuals were convicts.

The story of benchmarks begins with the Ordnance Survey of Ireland (OSI), established in 1824 under Lt.-Col. Thomas F. Colby. His team carried out the world’s first large-scale mapping of an entire country, culminating in the survey of 1834 and the levelling of Ireland between 1839 and 1843. By 1846, Colby’s monumental effort was complete, leaving behind not only the celebrated six-inch-to-the-mile maps but also a physical legacy inscribed into the landscape.

Each benchmark recorded a precise elevation point, forming a network that allowed engineers, builders, and cartographers to work from a common reference.

Today, a lot of benchmarks still survive as tangible links to Ireland’s first great scientific survey and the progress it represented. Yet they lack any protection status. Modern demolition, redevelopment, road surface levels rising and weathering have already erased from sight, and permanently eradicated many.

Sadly, without awareness and preservation, these modest but historic cuts in stone may in time vanish altogether, along with the stories and the knowledge that they carry.