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Liberty Square Upgrade Will NOT Be Fully Completed Under Current Phase.

Reliable sources close to Thurles.Info have confirmed that the west side of Liberty Square, Thurles, will not now be completed as part of the current promised upgrade, latter which it was hoped would be completed by early 2022.

Part of the south side (Money Side) of Liberty Square is almost fully completed, with the exception of work for which the Electricity Supply Board (ESB) is mainly responsible. This includes the removal of the old, shabby ESB lamp standards etc, on which the ESB are currently working. No further works will be undertaken, travelling west, to the entrance to Slievenamon Road and finishing outside Executive Men’s Wear.

On the north side (Sunny Side) of Liberty Square, work will cease at the corner of the junction with O’Donovan Rossa Street, ( previously Pudding Lane, and Jail Street), beside AIB Bank. No lighting standards, to date, has been introduced on the North Side, with the more recent modern and attractive lamp standards introduced, removed to ‘God knows where’.

The east side of Liberty Square, running perpendicular to Barry’s Bridge and the Butler Castle; like the remainder of the overall town centre area, same over one year on, still awaits final finishes.

We are informed that work on the west side of Liberty Square, including the exit unto Westgate/ Friar Street has yet to go to tender. We also learn that Slievenamon Road is to be further street-scaped and is to be narrowed to vehicle traffic, under plans which have, as far as we are aware, not been revealed to local residents.

Tipperary County Council’s Mission Statement:

Our Vision: “To lead and deliver on sustaining, promoting and improving the social, community, cultural and economic well being of all citizens in the county of Tipperary, through a positive proactive partnership approach to service delivery.”

With parking now greatly reduced on Liberty Square, major questions are being asked by the public; latter who claim that the Liberty Square project to date, includes none of their personal recommendations, which had been requested in a survey carried out and discussed by principal British landscape architects LUC, (landuse.co.uk).

This project, to update Liberty Square, [not including the demolition of J. Griffins newsagent shop; latter which began in February, 2020] and which began in mid-August 2020, has taken to date 13 months, with work continuing non-stop during the Covid-19 pandemic. As viewers can see from the video shown above, confusion still remains (last pictures in the above slide-show taken on Tuesday last September 14th) and will continue to do so for at least another 3 months.

Two junctions; (A) Slievenamon Road / Liberty Square, Thurles and (B) Slievenamon Road / Clongower Road, Thurles.
Pic G.Willoughby

Some of the questions being asked by residents and business people are as follows:-

(A) With no designated parking areas for invalided persons in the new south-sided car park, (exited via Checkpoint Charlie) and with invalid parking promised on Liberty Square; what space has been allocated for delivery trucks conveying daily goods for supermarkets, restaurants, public houses and the few other businesses, each with no alternative but to struggle on, in Liberty Square?

(B) Why has this information not been announced by local councillors through local press; through local radio and their social media outlets?

Junction at Slievenamon Road and Liberty Square, Thurles.
Pic. G.Willoughby.

(C) With Liberty Square further narrowed for heavy vehicle traffic which prohibits even the opening fully of a vehicle door and the now proposed narrowing of Slievenamon Road, how are Fire Brigade Units, Paramedics and Ambulances expected to go about their most urgent business?

(D) While we are aware that taxpayer funding remains available for to complete the next western phase of the Liberty Square project and the southern Slievenamon Road project, should the few remaining businesses not yet forced out of Liberty Square, be asked to put up with yet further traffic congestion for at least another 6 to 9 months, as engineers seated in back offices, dream-up other ways of how to spend hard earned taxpayers money?

(E) With 4 very mature trees removed from Liberty Square over the past 12 months; where are the new promised trees to be planted? In the initial plans many trees were to be planted.
Then in a more recent update we are informed only 6 trees are due to be installed, the variety to be sown was to be “subject to the street soil quality”. However, to date no street spaces appear to be allocated to trees, unless they are destined to replace ESB poles. So where will TDs and Councillors hang their photoshopped posters?

Any plans available for narrowing Slievenamon Road, will be interesting to observe, (See Pictures above) based on past experience, which saw several times a year, large trucks removing existing so called safety railings, not to mention, sadly, one fatal traffic accident in that immediate area, back in January 2014.

Finally, despite local protests, some of which became underhanded, using dirty tricks; we can fully and reasonably understand why An Post; seeing what was coming down the track on Liberty Square, regrettably beat a hasty retreat to the comfort of Thurles Shopping Centre.

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Truck Rearranges Street Furnishings In Half Upgraded Liberty Square, Thurles.

Truck rearranges Liberty Square, Thurles, town Railing

Sadly, the area was the scene of a pedestrian death on January 20th 2014. Since then the nearby railings, supposedly placed there to protect pedestrians, has since been replaced on three different occasions. Now for the fourth time, in possibly the past 36 hours, a large truck has again rearranged these same railings, at the junction of Liberty Square south and Slievenamon Road, Thurles, Co. Tipperary.

Yes, this is the Slievenamon Road, on the N62 route which is destined to be soon upgraded, by reducing its carriageway width, by widened/extending footpaths, by some 1.8m to 2.5m.

Any of you haulage contractors out there, with a truck missing a mudguard? Your driver failed to take it with him, having demolished railings, when failing to manoeuvre a left lane turn in Liberty Square Thurles. Co. Tipperary.

Peculiar, that with two currently resident Teachtaí Dála, both supporting the present government, no necessary funding has been acquired to provide a ring road for heavy traffic, thus relieving our medieval choked streetscapes.

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Large Truck Rearranges A Half Upgraded Liberty Square, Thurles.

A large 25,000 pound vehicle, latter attempting to pass yet another large vehicle, which was offloading its cargo on Liberty Square, Thurles, has made some changes to the now only half upgraded Liberty Square in the Town centre.

Liberty Square, Thurles rearranged.


The vehicle was obliged to drive over the kerb up unto the flowerbed in order to pass the correctly parked vehicle, ploughing peat unto the narrow single traffic lane.

This rearranging of a flower bed has happened where an already erected directional sign had previously stood in August of 2022.

We note from those who contact us here on Thurles.Info, that housewives with babies and small children, latter required to operate baby seats and seat bases in the rear of their cars, are now avoiding the Liberty Square area. They claim that there is insuffecient room to keep a rear car door open, while strapping in their offspring’s.

But sure what is the worst that can happen in this instant? The peat, now bulldozed onto the narrow single street lane, will be washed into a nearby drain during a heavy rain shower, thus joining the other host of blocked drains in the town.

The Liberty Square, upgrade began officially on August 17th, 2020, and to date, over 3 years later, same has only been half finished.

Question: Is Tipperary County Council in serious financial difficulties or is it evidence of their poor ability to administrate?

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Long Awaited Upgrade To Liberty Square, Thurles Began Today

Long Awaited Upgrade To Liberty Square got underway today.
Picture G. Willoughby.

Work began today on the long awaited revamping of Liberty Square here in Thurles, with the much needed enhancement work being undertaken by David Walsh Civil Engineering Ltd.

This proposed work is expected to include the reconfiguration of the existing road structure; extended footpaths; shared accesses; together with associated drainage; ducting and other necessary ancillary works.

Monday, August 24th is expected to see the completion of some 87 car park spaces being provided in the new south-side carpark which is nearing completion. Same can be accessed off Liberty Square following the demolition of Griffins newsagents’ shop, granting an entrance between “Costcutters Supermarket” building and “Healthy Haven” on the southside and via Slievenamon Road on the westside.

This extensive work being undertaken on Liberty Square is expected to take some 12 months to finally complete, operating in a phased manner.

Upgrade on Liberty Square, Thurles begins.
Picture G. Willoughby.

The initial stage of works just begun today will involve the installation of drainage and service ducting along the centre of the existing road between the O’Donovan Rossa Street / Slievenamon Road and Barry’s (Butler) castle.

Under the first phase, the area to be developed will be between the Bank of Ireland and Slievenamon Road, thus allowing for two-way traffic to be maintained, with car parking space removal kept to a minimum.

Under the second phase, work will be undertaken between Bank of Ireland and Barry’s castle. Here it will be necessary to close the N75 road in both directions through the square following a statutory advertisement process.
Here, diversion routes will be provided and clearly posted. These works will be carried out at night-time between 8:00pm and 7:00am with the road fully re-opened during the day.

All going well, these works are expected to last over a two week time period. This road closure period is anticipated to begin on Monday, September 7th, ending on Sunday, September 21st 2020, with the both phases of the work expected to take six weeks to complete.

The next phase of the works will commence from the south east corner of Liberty Square, from Barry’s castle moving westwards along the south side of Liberty Square, again in a phased manner.
Here businesses and pedestrians must expect necessary disruptions, as work on the footpaths is completed, moving past existing, individual entrances and exits.

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No Parking Proposed For Parnell Street In Phase 2 Planning Report, Liberty Square.

No Parking proposed for Parnell Street in Phase 2 of Liberty Square recent Planning Report.

We may have misled our readers in our report of July 23rd last, regarding the Proposed Parnell Street & Cúchulainn Road Layout In Thurles.

Parnell Street (formerly New Street) at the junction (right) with Cúchulainn Road (formerly Nicholas Street).

To correct this; Under section 6.3.4 of the proposed Phase 2 plans, now at discussion state, we read: [Note in all quotes herewith, same are taken exactly as stated on the Phase 2 Report].
“There is to be the introduction of double yellow lines, prohibiting parking on Parnell Square, north and south of the Parnell Street car park.”

Full prohibited parking on Parnell Street is indeed most welcome, same having been sought time and time again and refused by council officials. Same will be seen as a blessing, especially by HGV drivers and all on-coming vehicles they met, thus removing the frustration experienced by all, especially those servicing 3 large schools in this area.
The referred Parnell Square’ of course does not exist as an area in Thurles, (possibly mistaken copied from Dublin’s national plan), however, we now understand that this proposal refers to the full length of both sides of Parnell Street in Thurles town, which extends certainly to Thurles Railway bridge and possibly ends at the junction with Bohernanave, before it joins Castlemeadows, on the R498, at Semple Stadium. Here double yellow lines already exist fully on the left-hand-side, as vehicles travel slowly north over sunken collapsing drain covers. Same yellow lines also partially exist on the right-hand-side of the narrower sections of this medieval roadway; when travelling in the same direction.

Under section 6.3.5 of this proposed Phase 2 plan we read:-
Quote: “To counter the reduction in the parking spaces in the Square, [Liberty Square], Tipperary County Council, as part of a separate project, is developing a new car park, which is to be located within the Parnell Street Car Park, to the northwest of Liberty Square.
This new car park will consist of a total of 50 new parking spaces and is to be delivered prior to the Liberty Square Phase 2 scheme. This leads to a net gain of 30 spaces, for public parking, when combined with this scheme.


In our report of July 22nd found HERE and entitled “Proposed Liberty Square Layout Phase 2”, readers will be aware of a loss of 19 car parking spaces, including a Taxi Rank, under this proposed, long overdue, Phase 2 upgrade.
The 19 car parking spaces lost in Liberty Square, when added to the 21 car parking spaces, due to be axed on Parnell Street, as part of this new planning proposal, we calculate as a loss of 40 lost/removed spaces in total.
This figure calculated, immediately calls into question the figures supplied by the authors of this poorly prepared report, which they claim is a net gain of 30 spaces. [50-40=10 not 30]
Where these extra 50 car parking spaces can be provided ‘northwest of the Liberty Square car park’ is not disclosed. But it has been suggested that an announcement by councillors of the purchase of new land, may be ‘being currently kept under tight wraps’.

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