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Local Councillors Row Over Redevelopment Of Liberty Square.

We posted earlier this month (December 5th 2024 last), confirmation of the idiotic plans accepted under Phase 2 of Thurles towns upgraded traffic plans; same formulated by Transport Infrastructure Ireland (TII) and proposed and seconded by Fine Gael’s Cllr. Ms Peggy Ryan and Fianna Fail’s Cllr. Mr Sean Ryan.

These plans are now expected to proceed some years down the line, despite angry local opposition by traders, who have already suffered the loss, they claim, of some 40% – 60% of footfall and who now fear a dramatic decline in the value of their business properties.

Following a meeting held on Monday last, Fine Gael Cllr. Ms Peggy Ryan has proposed a motion, seeking that parking bye-laws in Thurles, should be reviewed to bring in more short term parking in the centre of town.
This proposed motion follows her earlier proposed acceptance of the idiotic Phase 2 plan, which will see 12-14 car park spaces eradicated from west of the town centre.

State of “The Source” Car Park, Thurles, now closed for over one year.
Pic: G. Willoughby.

Question: When will “The Source” car park be re-opened to the public?

This new proposal, by Cllr. Ms Peggy Ryan, appears to ignore the fact that for well over a year, parking under “The Source” building has remained closed, while the existing car parks are filled five days each week by workers, using all-day parking tickets; thus leaving no spaces for those attempting to shop in the town centre.

We the electorate are no longer being kept informed of what is being discussed behind closed doors at Council meetings.

Liberty Square Phase 2 Plans:
Quote from the Phase 2 Report: “It is proposed to limit traffic flow to one way, with no vehicles permitted entry to Cuchulain Road (formerly Nicholas Street) at the junction with O’Donovan Rossa Street (Formerly Pudding Lane and Jail Street).”

The Cuchulainn Road and O’Donovan Rossa Street Junction pictured in 2013.
Pic: G. Willoughby

The disused and weed infested area, located currently at the junction with O’Donovan Rossa Street and Cuchulain Road, Thurles town.
Pic: G. Willoughby.

Question: Following the purchase, by the Local Authority (2013) , (which used taxpayer funding), of property at the corner of Cuchulainn Road/O’Donovan Rossa Street, formerly known as Campbell’s Tyre Centre, can parking spaces not now be made available here?

Presently, this area remains disused, weed infested and like other areas of our town, is no longer maintained in an appropriate manner.

Elected Municipal District Councillors To Discuss Phase 2 Of Thurles Town Upgrade.

Tipperary County Council’s Chief Executive, Ms Sinead Carr, [latter who took over from Mr Joe MacGrath, following his retirement from the post at the end of May this year (2024)], has submitted her report in relation to Phase 2 of the long awaited Liberty Square upgrade.

Proposed Liberty Square West Layout (Phase 2).

We understand that all nine of our elected Municipal District Councillors have now received copies of her final deliberations and we further understand that the matter will be considered by same nine councillors at a council meeting on November 18th next (2024).

We understand that a total of 22 submissions were received during the period of public consultation which ended, on August 30th 2024. At least one submission (which is surprisingly included), was forwarded outside the period of public consultation; received on 2/9/2024.

See link and download all submissions shown HERE noting the received date of each submission.

Two submissions were received from one affected family business, sharing Parnell Street with O’Donovan Rossa Street, both bearing the same content. So if honesty was to prevail, only 20 submissions were received. Please read HERE.

Parnell Street (formerly New Street) at the junction (right) with Cúchulainn Road (formerly Nicholas Street).

We understand that Tipperary County Council’s Chief Executive Ms Sinead Carr, despite the submissions forwarded by the public and received, is recommending that little or no changes should be made to the original plans initially set out.

HGV Re-designs Liberty Square’s 9 Week-Old Safety Railing.

On the week before the 2024 Local Elections (June 7th), the then existing crushed railing at the junction of Liberty Square and Slievenamon Road (N62) were replaced, with a somewhat frailer version of the same.

Well between ourselves, this replacement did stop those awkward door stop questions, as our double jobbing local councillors moved from door to door, canvassing for votes. There was always the hope that they could be re-elected and continue to re-offend, while receiving their €35,000 plus, annual salaries for doing and achieving f..k all.
And the voting public didn’t fail to fulfil their hopes and expectations. These same councillors would go on to draw back their lips in a show of amusement, with no evidence of any shyness, embarrassment, or shame, when all were once again re-elected, for another 5 years of indolence.

August 13th 2024: HGV re-designs Liberty Square’s 9 week old new safety railing.
Pic: G. Willoughby.

Today, August 13th, just a mere 9 weeks later, not surprising, disaster has struck once again. The design of this new junction railing has been totally adjusted by an 18.75m heavy goods vehicle (HGV). (See image above). The driver was happy to leave behind the gift of a mudguard from one of his rear wheels.

Please do read Proposed Liberty Square Layout Phase 2 again and weep.

It is interesting to note that according to the Road Safety Authority (RSA), a large Tractor Cab is permitted to tow two trailers and exceed 18.75m in overall length, but NOT in any town with a population exceeding 10,000 people. Here in Thurles, on our medieval streets, we meet at least 4 x 22m HGV’s on a daily basis, due to the constant failure by two resident politicians to acquire funding for a ring road.

The population of Thurles, (according to the Central Statistics Office (CSO) in 2022), stands at 8,185 and since then we have welcomed Ukrainian families (62 x 2 bed modular homes built within the town), latter fleeing their war-torn land, together with a large number of International Protection (IPAS) residents of all nationalities, into our midst. Add also recent births since 2022, a few tourists resident in two hotels, a large number of students currently residing in accommodation in the town, while attending our two 3rd level institutions.

While each of these additional variables, inclusive of the official CSO population number of 8125, may not yet put the town directly in the category of 10,000 persons (not just yet), responsible and considerate mitigation and planning must now be set in motion, as we continue very soon to sprawl closer to this 10,000 person threshold.

Meanwhile, as I have stated on numerous occasions, the massive waste of taxpayer’s money by Tipperary Co. Council engineers and Thurles Municipal District officials/councillors and those they employ to do surveys, continues unabated.

No Parking Proposed For Parnell Street In Phase 2 Planning Report, Liberty Square.

No Parking proposed for Parnell Street in Phase 2 of Liberty Square recent Planning Report.

We may have misled our readers in our report of July 23rd last, regarding the Proposed Parnell Street & Cúchulainn Road Layout In Thurles.

Parnell Street (formerly New Street) at the junction (right) with Cúchulainn Road (formerly Nicholas Street).

To correct this; Under section 6.3.4 of the proposed Phase 2 plans, now at discussion state, we read: [Note in all quotes herewith, same are taken exactly as stated on the Phase 2 Report].
“There is to be the introduction of double yellow lines, prohibiting parking on Parnell Square, north and south of the Parnell Street car park.”

Full prohibited parking on Parnell Street is indeed most welcome, same having been sought time and time again and refused by council officials. Same will be seen as a blessing, especially by HGV drivers and all on-coming vehicles they met, thus removing the frustration experienced by all, especially those servicing 3 large schools in this area.
The referred ‘Parnell Square’ of course does not exist as an area in Thurles, (possibly mistaken copied from Dublin’s national plan), however, we now understand that this proposal refers to the full length of both sides of Parnell Street in Thurles town, which extends certainly to Thurles Railway bridge and possibly ends at the junction with Bohernanave, before it joins Castlemeadows, on the R498, at Semple Stadium. Here double yellow lines already exist fully on the left-hand-side, as vehicles travel slowly north over sunken collapsing drain covers. Same yellow lines also partially exist on the right-hand-side of the narrower sections of this medieval roadway; when travelling in the same direction.

Under section 6.3.5 of this proposed Phase 2 plan we read:-
Quote: “To counter the reduction in the parking spaces in the Square, [Liberty Square], Tipperary County Council, as part of a separate project, is developing a new car park, which is to be located within the Parnell Street Car Park, to the northwest of Liberty Square.
This new car park will consist of a total of 50 new parking spaces and is to be delivered prior to the Liberty Square Phase 2 scheme. This leads to a net gain of 30 spaces, for public parking, when combined with this scheme.


In our report of July 22nd found HERE and entitled “Proposed Liberty Square Layout Phase 2”, readers will be aware of a loss of 19 car parking spaces, including a Taxi Rank, under this proposed, long overdue, Phase 2 upgrade.
The 19 car parking spaces lost in Liberty Square, when added to the 21 car parking spaces, due to be axed on Parnell Street, as part of this new planning proposal, we calculate as a loss of 40 lost/removed spaces in total.
This figure calculated, immediately calls into question the figures supplied by the authors of this poorly prepared report, which they claim is a net gain of 30 spaces. [50-40=10 not 30]
Where these extra 50 car parking spaces can be provided ‘northwest of the Liberty Square car park’ is not disclosed. But it has been suggested that an announcement by councillors of the purchase of new land, may be ‘being currently kept under tight wraps’.

Proposed Liberty Square Layout Phase 2.

The improvements made to Liberty Square, Thurles, Co. Tipperary, under Phase 1 of its upgrade, are without doubt aesthetically pleasing, but same have failed to address the traffic congestion problems that currently plague this area.
These past improvements and the proposed developments now suggested, under Phase 2, still have not gotten to the root of Liberty Square’s real needs; amongst them the much sought after ‘Ring Road’ that would take excess traffic out of this area.

In the absence of a ring road, it remains very difficult to enjoy this superficial upgrade to Liberty Square, when the majority of us associate it with the most frustrating of daily traffic jams.

If Phase 2 is accepted, traffic will most certainly bring the centre of Thurles town to a standstill, with a single lane now being proposed at the junction of Slievenamon Road and Liberty Square, same coming into use, continuously, by heavy goods vehicles (HGV’s). {See layout plan hereunder}. So too, with

Overall we found this report to be both contradictory, misleading and containing what appears to be a paste & copy job; e.g. quotes:-

* * “The Thurles Liberty Square Phase 2 project will encourage compact growth by reducing congestion in the town centre and providing better pedestrian facilities, making Thurles a healthier and more liveable town.”
Congestion has greatly increased since Phase 1 was implemented, resulting in, according to businesses, a reduction of 60% in footfall. The nitrogen dioxide produced by vehicle exhaust fumes has increased creating symptoms that are similar to ozone and sulphur dioxide due to constant traffic delays. The report has failed to supply any details of current air quality and has not commented on the smell of hydrogen sulphide being emitted through drains in this area. The report fails to recognise that buses double park on the northwest of Liberty Square, reducing this area to one lane of traffic and continue to promote this idiotic notion, instead of moving same to install two bus parking spaces on the west side.

* * “The Thurles Liberty Square Phase 2 project provides better access to education services in
Thurles, through the widening of footpaths around the main square and through the provision of
a school zone
.”

One primary school drop down and pick up area exists on Liberty Square; operating from the car park behind the former Ulster Bank building, resulting in same area becoming a no-go area between the hours 2:00pm and 4:00pm, to those wishing to go shopping within the town centre. The provision of a School Zone is not immediately evident.

* * “Explore opportunities to maximise physical activity and recreational amenities in the natural environment. By providing dedicated facilities for walking and cycling, the Thurles Liberty Square Phase 2 project aims to create opportunities for physical activity and exercise for residents and visitors alike.”
Where are the cycling lanes proposed? Over one year ago, Tipperary Co. Council removed the cycle lane previously provided on Clongower Road, same part of some €400,000 funding acquired by the said Council just 5 years ago. Dedicated facilities for walking on Liberty Square were always provided. Of the 19 Crome Bollard Bike Racks currently provided for use on Liberty Square, not one was found to be in use today.

* * “Ensure that the planning, development and design of towns, cities and schools promotes cycling and
walking with the aim of delivering a network of cycle routes and footpaths.”

“The aim of the Department of Health’s National Physical Activity Plan is to increase physical activity levels across the whole population, and the Plan sets separate targets for adults, children and older people to reach the recommended levels of physical activity”.
Thurles town centre is a small rural town which required special planning, related directly to successful business and consumer satisfaction. People do not come into town centres to increase recommended levels of physical activity; for such, local residents use the Jimmy Doyle road etc.

View hereunder Tipperary Co. Council’s Part 8 Revised Planning Report, Phase2, latter updated in early July 2024, and prepared by AECOM.

Quoting from the AECOM report:
“The Liberty Square Phase 2 proposes the relocation of 12 car parking spaces from the central island car park. This is to be replaced to accommodate improved pedestrian crossing facilities across the square including upgraded controlled pedestrian crossings and a new footpath, with associated landscaping to improve public realm. Where possible this landscaping will include SuDS*, features such as rain-gardens.
There are pedestrian crossings proposed to connect the central parking island to the north and south sides of the Square.
“

*[ SuDS – Sustainable Drainage or SuDS is a way of managing rainfall that minimises the negative impacts on the quantity and quality of run-off whilst maximising the benefits of amenity and biodiversity for people and the environment],

Proposed Liberty Square West Layout (Phase 2).

“The crossing on the northern side of the central parking island is to be a controlled crossing and the crossing on the southern side is proposed to be a zebra crossing. These crossing will include tactile paving for visually impaired users.”

“The parking in the central island is being removed to reduce the number of pedestrian crossings to the island. This will in turn reduce the probably of a potential collision involving a pedestrian crossing to or from the car park.”

“In addition to the changes to the central island the scheme includes the widening of footpaths at Liberty Square on the south, west and northern sides. To accommodate this widening and the proposed crossings, the parking on these sides of the Square is to be reduced. The carriageway is being reduced to provide more space for pedestrians to navigate around the Square and to provide adequate space for the pedestrian crossings.”

“On the northern side of the square the taxi rank is to be replaced with a disabled parking bay, and a formal bus stop is to be put in place.”

“On the western side of the square there is to be the reduction from 5 to 3 spaces.”

“The southern side of the square will see a reduction from 7 spaces, including 1 disabled bay, to 3 spaces. The southern side of Liberty Square is proposed to be reduced from two lanes to one; to accommodate the zebra crossing. {See layout plan above}.”

Recently erected, new guardrails already struck by a heavy goods vehicle (HGV) attempting to manoeuvre Slievenamon Road corner, heading northwards.

“Slievenamon Road: An existing pedestrian crossing is located along Slievenamon Road approximately 20m from its junction with Liberty Square. This crossing is to remain in place, together with the existing guardrails, that are currently in place on either side of the road.”

“There are proposed raised uncontrolled pedestrian crossings across the junctions of Liberty Square and
O’Donovan Rossa Street, Friar Street and Parnell Street. The crossings will include tactile paving for visually impaired pedestrians.”

END.

Tipperary County Council is required to make full plans and particulars of this proposed development available for inspection. Same will be made available at the Thurles Municipal District Office, Civic Offices, Castle Avenue, Thurles, Co. Tipperary, (E41 KA44).